Is stainless the closest match to a brushed finish? Any other finished available for the 600 series replacement?
Asked by: FP
Hi FP!
Thanks for your question! Yes, Stainless Steel could be considered a close match to a Brushed Nickel Finish. The RP54870 comes in the Chrome, Stainless Steel, and Venetian Bronze finishes.
Best Regards,
Justin
Answered by: DeltaFaucet4
Date published: 2024-03-28
Extension Stem
The renovation kit works perfectly. The only problem is I need an extension piece from the stainless ball to the new handle. Is there a delta part for this?
Asked by: Bob
Dear Bob,
Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, we do not make any extensions for the ball assembly stem. The set screw tighten the handle to the stem of the ball assembly.
https://media.deltafaucet.com/MandI/63380RevB.pdf
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Tanya
Date published: 2017-05-01
Not sure which model this is and which renovation kit will work
I want to purchase a renovation kit for this tub/shower set, but I'm not sure which series it is. The house was built in 1991 and these are the original fixtures.There is a push button diverter. I would like to update it with a brushed nickel or chrome finish kit. Please let me know which pieces I would need to purchase separately, also. Thanks!
Asked by: bmp111
Hi bmp111, Thank you for your question. If you have to lift the handle to turn on the pictured faucet it would be a 600 series faucet. You can use the RP54870 renovation kit to update the look to a chrome or brilliance stainless (SS) finish. You would want to cap off the push button diverter with RP2865 and then order a finish matching diverter tub spout. You would also need to replace the RP6023 shower arm, RP6025 shower flange, and the shower head of your choice.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
I currently have a ball valve that lifts with the shield shaped piece to determine hot and cold. If I get a new kit with the just the vertical shaped hole piece and a plastic ball, will that work? do you still lift this one or does this style turn?
Asked by: Zippy
Hello Zippy,
Thank you for your question. The Delta Renovation Kit RP54870 is designed for our Delta 600 series faucets. The handle of this unit pushes up to start the water running and you rotate it right and left to control the hot and cold water temperature. This kit comes with all of the handle trim and internal parts for an updated/upgraded look.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
I have an old 1600 series. Do they make a conversion kit that allows you to control the volume of water. Right now this is just an on/off/mix with a set volume. I'm trying to avoid replacing the valve body. Thank You in advance.
Asked by: LittleI
Thank you for your question, Littlel. Unfortunately, we do not make a conversion kit for this faucet to provide separate volume and temperature controls. However, you can add a Volume Control such as the U4760-PK to the shower arm that will allow you to control the flow rate.
https://www.deltafaucet.com/parts-product-detail?modelNumber=U4760-PK
Best regards, Jon
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Can I replace the handle that comes in the RP54870 600 series reno kit with a Trinsic RP73375 handle to match my new sink faucet?
Asked by: cranetech
Hi Cranetech,
Thank you for your question. The Trinsic handle RP73375 is for a 14 Series shower or tub/shower faucet. This handle does not have the same type of connection as the handle that comes with the 600 series RP54870 Renovation Kit. They are not interchangeable.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Tanya
Date published: 2024-03-28
I'm putting in a RP54870ss. Do they have a kit that has the tub spout, shower head, shower arm and Esc. all together?
Asked by: Big T
Thank you for your question, Big T. The tub spout, shower arm, flange, and shower head can be purchased separately. We do not have a kit for the 600 series that includes these items.
Tub spouts:
https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/showering/shower-components
Shower heads:
https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/showering/showerheads--handshowers
The most common shower arm and flange is RP6023 and RP6025.
Best regards,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2024-03-28
Do you have a series 600 conversion kit w/ escutcheon w/ hole for push button diverter?>
Hello,
Recently purchased RP54870 and realized that the escutcheon doesn't have a hole for the push button diverter. Do you have a conversion kit with this escutcheon or does it need to be purchased separately?
Thanks!
Asked by: IBeChris
Hi IBeChris,
Thank you for your question. The escutcheon plate for the push button diverter is RP6046, and the diverter is RP5649. We do not have a kit that includes these parts. You may cap the diverter hole in the valve and use a diverter tub spout or purchase the plate and diverter separately.
https://www.deltafaucet.com/parts-product-detail?modelNumber=RP6046
https://www.deltafaucet.com/parts-product-detail?modelNumber=RP5649
Best regards,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2016-12-30
Was Model 641 with "Ball" Classic Handle from the 1970s & 80s made from Chrome or SS?
I found a Delta Parts Catalog from 1983 & was finally able to determine the fixtures in my 2 bathrooms which were installed in mid-70s are both Models 641 with the "Classic" handle (RP90) on faucet & tub spout diverter has the same ball on it. Tub Spout is the upgraded Solid Brass Diverter (RP6021). I am not replacing the shower handle, valves, etc., because they are in good shape & I like the flexibility of the cam RP61 & ball assembly RP70. I found all other replacement parts for shower arm & bathtub drain.
I was not going to change the RP6021 tub spout as it functions fine & has the solid brass diverter in it instead of the plastic diverter that come with newer spouts. Unfortunately my plumber messed up the tub spout when removing it for tiling. He stripped the threads on the reducer & I can't get the reducer off to replace it as it is frozen in place & now my husband has messed up the finish trying to get the reducer/nipple out.
To date I have not been able to find discontinued tub spout RP6021 with the diverter in the back & the "ball" on stem, so I might have to use an alternative diverter spout. Hopefully I will be able to unscrew the "button" on a new spout & replace it with my "ball" which does screw off so it will match the faucet hardware.
My question may need to be answered by an old timer. In the 1983 catalog they only show Series 600 Model 641 coming in Chrome, Gold, & Satin Gold. I am unsure if my spout is Chrome. It sure looks like Stainless Steel & has lasted 42 years. In the old days when they listed Chrome, was it really Stainless Steel? I don't see any reference to SS anywhere in the Catalog.
If I order a new replacement tub spout with diverter, I am not sure whether to order Chrome or Brilliance SS?
So did they make SS in the mid-70s & call it Chrome, or is RP6021 really Chrome?
Hopefully some old Delta employee will know the answer to this question. I have attached pics from the 1983 Catalog & also one of my shower/tub setup.
Does anyone know if I can obtain RP6021 tub spout anywhere? Are there any hanging out in your Delta warehouse?
Thanks.
- Nancie
Asked by: Nancie
Hi Nancie,
Thank you for your question! Your tub/shower faucet is Chrome. Unfortunately, the RP6021 tub spout is no longer available. However, the RP17454 and RP5834 are metallic.
http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/details/rp17454.html
http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/details/rp5834.html
Best regards,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2024-03-28
RP54870PB Polished Brass 600 series trim kit still being sold?
Is the above part still being sold? There was a previous question about purchasing this trim kit with a polished brass finish and the answer said to purchase the above part number. Unfortunately, you do not list this as an available finish with the RP54870 part. I could buy just a polished brass escutcheon, but would still need the sleeve and ball cam in polished brass. I would want a handle too, but would get by with using a new crystal ball.
Asked by: Debbie
Hi Debbie, Thank you for your question. The RP54870PB is no longer available. The 600 Renovation kit is offered in chrome. venetian bronze, and brilliance stainless finishes.
You can still order the escutcheon RP5883PB, trim sleeve RP5893PB, cap RP50PB, and lever handle RP17443PB as individual items. If you are switching from the acrylic knob handle to a lever style you will also need the RP20111 conversion ball.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
Push Button Diverter Conversion
I have read that this doesn't contain all of the parts necessary to convert a push button style diverter; however, in the Review section someone references using a brass plug and using a pull up or pull down spout. Would you please point me in the right direction on what sort of plug is needed? I don't have access to the back of the wall and would like to avoid cutting out tile.
Thank you!
Asked by: Round Ronny
Dear Round Ronny,
Thank you for your question. The Push Button Diverter Plug RP2865 can be installed on the old 600 series valve, when installing the Delta Renovation Kit RP54870SS.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Tanya
Date published: 2017-03-04
Will this kit work with the one that has the push button diverter just below the handle?
Asked by: Beatrice
Hi, Beatrice!
Thank you for your question. The Delta RP54870 Renovation Kit will not work with a push button diverter. The push button diverter will have to be removed and the hole will have to be plugged with RP2865. Here is a link to this:
https://www.deltafaucet.com/parts-product-detail?modelNumber=RP2865
Once the diverter hole is plugged, a diverter tub spout will need to be installed.
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
what size is the threaded part of the valve that goes into the valve body that the water lines attach to?
Asked by: Will Itfit
Dear Will Itfit,
Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, we do not have thread size of that 600 series rough-in valve assembly. However, the RP50 cap assembly, that comes with the Delta 600 Series Renovation Kit RP54870 will fit the valve as long as it is an original Delta 600 series ball style valve.
https://media.deltafaucet.com/MandI/33778_v1.pdf
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Tanya
Date published: 2017-05-15
Hi, is the Renovation Kit compatible with my old shower piece (1985)? Thank you!
Asked by: NoClue
Hi NoClue,
Thank you for your question. This kit will work with older 600 series showers. 600 series models operate by tilting the handle up to turn the water on, and rotating right and left to adjust the temperature.
Best regards,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2024-03-28
Want to clearly understand my options for replacing what appears to be a 600 series....
Would like to go from brass to polished chrome. Would LOVE to upgrade to something newer and more updated, like Dryden or similiar, with an added handheld attachment on the arm, but need to understand what I'm getting into. Am I understanding the below correctly?
1) If I choose to truly upgrade to the newest on the market, maybe Dryden, then that will require a tear out of tile or wall behind shower to completely replace value, is that correct?
2) If I use the polished chrome Renovation Kit (RP54870) then tile/wall will not be damaged at all? Is this the only way to change trim with no damage? If this is correct, can you please explain what else I need in polished chrome to change everything (arm, showerhead, spout, overflow, drain). Are there specific models of these that only work with the 600 series as well? If so, model numbers would be great. If I want to also add a handheld to my setup, then how would that work?
Thanks so much,
Lenora
Asked by: Lenora
Dear Lenora,
Thank you for your question. In order not to change the 600 series valve assembly, behind the wall, yes you would use the Delta Renovation Kit RP54870. The Renovation kit comes with all of the internal and external parts for the handle/valve area only. The shower arm, head, flange and tub spout would need to be purchased separately. Any of our Delta shower arm, head, flange and tub spout will work with this kit. To add a handshower to your unit, we would recommend adding a shower arm diverter, either model 50560 or U4920-PK . Then any Delta handshower of your choice can be installed with your unit.
Best Regards,
Tanya
Delta Consumer Response Specialist
Consumer Care Phone: (800) 345-3358
Answered by: DeltaFaucet9
Date published: 2016-08-27
Trilobal (triangular?) cam....do I have a compatible 600 series?
After viewing the exploded diagram here (https://www.plumbingsupply.com/deltabathvalves.html#delta601), I think I have a 600 series, but the main body (the part in the wall that everything screws in to) is different.
As you can see in the attached pictures, my cam appears to be trilobal (triangular?) instead of the slotted one shown in the picture of this renovation kit. I suspect it's a RP61, as opposed to what I assume is a RP188 in this renovation kit.
Do I actually have a 600 series, and if so, is this the correct renovation kit? If it's not a 600 series, can you please tell me what I have and which rebuild kit I need?
Asked by: Chris
Thank you for your question, Chris! You do have a 600 series faucet. The trim parts (escutcheon plate, handle, screws, cap, and sleeve) will work with your faucet, as well as the seats and springs. The RP188 cam and RP20111 ball assembly are only used with models that are converting from a knob handle to the lever. For your shower, you can purchase the triangular RP61 cam and RP70 ball assembly separately or reuse the existing ones.
Best regards,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2024-03-28
My 600 series shower head is leaking. Would this kit solve this problem? Is there a separate cartridge I would need to buy?
Is there a way to know if this is a shower valve assembly problem instead? My 600 series is the plastic knob type that pulls up and is about 20 years old.
Asked by: Phil
Hi Phil, Thank you for your question. The RP54870SS is a renovation kit for the 600 series tub/shower faucets that replaces the internal and external parts for the tub/shower control. This kit should stop a showerhead leak. Normally switching out the RP4993 seats and springs and cleaning the ball assembly will stop most leaks in a 600 series without the need for the renovation kit unless you want to update the look of your faucet trim.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
Does this come with the two screws for the plate
Asked by: Larry
Hi, Larry!
Thank you for your question. The Delta RP54870SS renovation kit does include two escutcheon screws, RP196SS.
Best Regards,
Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Alternate for the diverter plug, replacements for the housing/base and rough?
My 1970s faucet has the ball and the push button diverter. The Escutcheon Plate is in excellent shape, so I can reuse it. I think it's is comparable to the 600 series, so I plan to buy that kit. Questions:
1. Instead of getting the RP2865 push button diverter plug and then pick a tub spout that has a diverter included on it, can I just reuse the current push button diverter with my original Escutcheon Plate and the original tub spout?
2. Can I buy the part that house the 2 rubber valve seat in it? (the back of that housing there are 3 copper tubings connecting to the rough). Where can I buy it. Part number?
3. Can I still buy that rough? Part number?
Asked by: TTran
Dear TTran,
Thank you for your inquiry! Yes, you can reuse your push button diverter, escutcheon plate and tub spout with the 600 Series RP54870 faucet trim.
The part that houses the seats and springs is the rough-in valve assembly and unfortunately we no longer make the 600 series rough-in valves.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Tanya
Date published: 2024-03-28
How to identify?
I don't know what series my shower controls are. Pretty much necessary information from what I'm reading. It has a round ball handle going left for hot and right for cold. Up for volume. I want to change handles to a newer design. I am enclosing a photo of one of them. You might see thread material at the top of the control. I also want to get new escutcheons
Thanks
Asked by: Jim
Hi Jim, Thank you for your question!
I have determined you have our 600 series tub/shower. It is a discontinued unit and none of the current trims we offer will fit onto the existing valve body. However, we do manufacture a renovation kit part number RP54870. The kit comes with the escutcheon(face plate), screws, sleeve, dome shaped cap assembly, lever handle and internal parts. You will have to order your choice of shower head, shower arm, shower flange and tub spout separate. The kit is available in Chrome, Venetian bronze and Stainless Steel finish. The kit can be viewed on our website www.deltafaucet.com. I hope this information is helpful.
Best regards,
Brandis
Answered by: DeltaFaucet7
Date published: 2024-03-28
How do you adjust the cam on this model?
Asked by: Scott70
Thank you for your question, Scott70! The RP61 Cam assembly, included with model RP54870SS has been modified. You will no longer use the adjusting ring that is currently in the top of dome shaped cap assembly (if applicable). You may need to remove and discard the adjusting ring when you install the new cam assembly. If you need further assistance, feel free to contact us directly.
Best Regards, Benjamin
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Do you need O rings to install RP54870? My installer used O rings but I now have a leak.
Asked by: Cwantstoknow
Hello Cwantstoknow,
Thank you for your inquiry! The Delta Renovation 600 Series Shower Kit RP54870SS does not require any o-rings for installation. This unit includes and uses the following RPs within the kit: RP17443 - lever handle; RP5883 - escutcheon; RP1050 - cap; RP5893 - sleeve; RP196 - escutcheon screws; RP20111 - conversion ball; RP4993 - seats & springs; RP188 - cam and packing.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Hello, do you have anything more modern looking in brushed bronze finish that will fit this old system?
Asked by: nancyggo
Thank you for your question, nancyggo! The RP54870 Renovation kit is currently only offered in Chrome, Stainless Steel or Venetian Bronze. We no longer manufacture trim kits for the 600 series and apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Best regards, Edward
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
With a push/pull diverter? I think installed around 1987.
Asked by: rick
Thank you for your question, Rick! The RP54870 conversion kit will only work with an older valve if you cap the push button diverter with the RP2865 plug and add a diverting tub spout. If you simply wish to renovate your 600 series, the RP6046 escutcheon plate along with all other components can be purchased separately in order to continue using the push button diverter.
https://www.deltafaucet.com/parts-product-detail?modelNumber=RP6046
Best regards, Edward
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
Why does this conversion kit not have an adjusting ring for the cap?
Asked by: Gene
Thank you for your question, Gene! The adjusting ring was a part used to add pressure down on the older cam assemblies. The newly designed cam and packing assembly is thicker as can not work with an adjusting ring installed in the cap.
Best regards, Edward
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
is this a Delta 600 series
I just want to replace the escutcheon, screws and knob. I'm not sure that I have a 600 series and whether it is the "deep" model. It certainly looks deep to me. I'm attaching photos.
Thanks
Asked by: Shirley
Thank you for your question. Based on the pictures, this is a 600 series faucet. We do offer a renovation kit for the 600 to upgrade the model. The kit includes everything but the showerhead, arm and flange. It also does not include a tub spout if needed. The model number is Delta Faucet model # RP58470 and is available in Chrome, Venetian Bronze, and Stainless Steel finishes.
Answered by: Delta1
Date published: 2024-03-28
What are all the items I need to replace old Delta 600 series fixtures for tub/shower.
I am changing fixtures from polished brass with the crystal knobs to chrome in a bath. I think I need the 600 series renovation kit for the shower and tub. What other items do I need to go with it? Shower head, tub spout...Are there specific ones that are compatible and others that aren't. It appears the kit only provides the lever and parts for controlling water on/off and hot/cold.
Asked by: Wendy
Hi Wendy,
Thank you for your question! The shower arm and flange can be replaced with the RP6023 and RP6025. The shower head can be replaced with any model. The best replacement tub spout will depend on the installation type. Some models slip onto a smooth copper pipe, others thread or sweat on to the pipe with an adapter.
http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/details/rp6023.html
http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/details/rp6025.html
Please click the links below to view our selection of shower heads and tub spouts:
http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/showering-components/filter-results.html?finish=cr&sort=pricehighlow&type=type-showercomp-showerhead&function=bath-showering-components
http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/showering-components/filter-results.html?finish=cr&sort=pricehighlow&type=type-showercomp-tubspouts&function=bath-showering-components
Thanks,
Jon
Answered by: DeltaFaucet3
Date published: 2024-03-28
Are there O rings that are included as part of this kit? Thank you.
Asked by: Cwantstoknow
Thank you for your inquiry, Cwantstoknow! The Delta Renovation 600 Series Shower Kit RP54870SS includes the following RPs within the kit: RP17443 - lever handle; RP5883 - escutcheon; RP1050 - cap; RP5893 - sleeve; RP196 - escutcheon screws; RP20111 - conversion ball; RP4993 - seats & springs; RP188 - cam and packing.
Best regards,
Tanya
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28
can i replace an old 600 glass knob to a lever handle with having to change anything else thanks
Asked by: nev
Hi Nev, Thank you for your question. In addition to the lever style handle you would also need to order the RP20111 conversion ball to convert your 600 series faucet from the acrylic knob handle. The lever handle will not attach to the existing diamond shaped end of the ball assembly.
Thanks,
Dave
Answered by: DeltaFaucet2
Date published: 2024-03-28
What is the interior hole dimension and is there a set with lever. I need a 2” center opening in a brushed nickel. Thanks.
Asked by: JenC
Hi, JenC!
Thank you for your question. The Delta RP54870SS Escutcheon Plate has an internal hole diameter of 1 3/4".
Best Regards, Rosanna
Answered by: Delta Faucet
Date published: 2024-03-28